Women want to remain attractive but even there, taken too far, it’s seen as a bit tragic if they try too hard to be sexy - see Madonna. Ditto overt advances by most older men to much younger women. There’s obviously a disparity between the sexes in the respective ‘permissions’ and condemnations given in the media around this. The sense of fading out is near universal though. It’s only a matter of when. I guess males suffer from their desire and women suffer more from their desire to be desired. But again, I don’t think most young women have a disgust response to older men who aren’t particularly attractive or high status. It’s more like the invisibility factor which men have towards older women. The ick only kicks in as a defence mechanism against men’s ability to overpower them when expression of desire spills out too much.
Dignity, wisdom and gravitas can go a good way to ‘de-grossing’ the older less physically attractive man. I have seen not especially high status older unattractive men liked and respected in the workplace by young attractive women. Perhaps this is only possible by the resignation of the fulfilment of one’s desire. The ick radar then turns off. If there was no ‘gross’ response, perhaps we’d have more harems of women with older guys with significant resources. Attractiveness and vitality has at least some correlation with the ability to protect and provide. I think lecherousness is seen as gross only partly due to physicality. The other part of it is it’s futility. Futility is foolishness and foolishness is gross. Older unattractive women’ on the prowl are also seen as gross aren’t they, even if that isn’t part of The Message broadcast? I certainly see them that way. I do understand the sting and irritation of this one sided media amplification of this phenomenon RE men. The default perception of women to such men is not disgust however. It’s indifference, but if you can suppress the outward manifestations of desire you can be admired and liked for your intelligence and depth, at least by those minority who are not silly and trivial. That is the fate of so many you would lust after, not to be envied.
Some Western men solve this problem by becoming High status via Global Travel.. you can find YouTube videos of white Western men traveling to the Philippines for example and even though they may be 70 years old they are with much younger women.. if you go to the passport Bros subreddit on Reddit site you can find discussions of this phenomenon... and basically they will tell you that there are many women in the third world who crave white DNA and want to get a white baby and they also seek the money of the white Western men. It doesn't take much money to be rich in the third world..
However, unfortunately I'm talking to people here in the dissident right and the dissonant right has been taken over by a moralistic neopuritanical culture.. so therefore what I'm suggesting is taboo in this forum
I think the movie proved the opposite of your point. The fact that the man was older and not especially attractive wasn't considered 'ick.' The girls hung out with him and came back to his apartment after all. No one does this with someone for whom they have zero attraction. The ick factor kicked in after he raped her. I'd say the movie wasn't trying to show that the girls weren't wrong for cheating, instead it was showing that even people who make bad moral choices can be the victims of bad people.
No. The girls hung out with him and went to his apartment only to butter him up so he'd be lenient when they took their makeup exam. They didn't like him or think he was "cool."
"No one does this with someone for whom they have zero attraction." -- They do, when they have ulterior motives.
I just imaged some young girls going, "Eewwww!"
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So restore the patriarchy for a society where adult men don't have to care about the opinions of the young and foolish.
Women want to remain attractive but even there, taken too far, it’s seen as a bit tragic if they try too hard to be sexy - see Madonna. Ditto overt advances by most older men to much younger women. There’s obviously a disparity between the sexes in the respective ‘permissions’ and condemnations given in the media around this. The sense of fading out is near universal though. It’s only a matter of when. I guess males suffer from their desire and women suffer more from their desire to be desired. But again, I don’t think most young women have a disgust response to older men who aren’t particularly attractive or high status. It’s more like the invisibility factor which men have towards older women. The ick only kicks in as a defence mechanism against men’s ability to overpower them when expression of desire spills out too much.
Older men should have their wives to have sex with.
Most divorces are initiated by women.
Abolish no fault divorce.
Dignity, wisdom and gravitas can go a good way to ‘de-grossing’ the older less physically attractive man. I have seen not especially high status older unattractive men liked and respected in the workplace by young attractive women. Perhaps this is only possible by the resignation of the fulfilment of one’s desire. The ick radar then turns off. If there was no ‘gross’ response, perhaps we’d have more harems of women with older guys with significant resources. Attractiveness and vitality has at least some correlation with the ability to protect and provide. I think lecherousness is seen as gross only partly due to physicality. The other part of it is it’s futility. Futility is foolishness and foolishness is gross. Older unattractive women’ on the prowl are also seen as gross aren’t they, even if that isn’t part of The Message broadcast? I certainly see them that way. I do understand the sting and irritation of this one sided media amplification of this phenomenon RE men. The default perception of women to such men is not disgust however. It’s indifference, but if you can suppress the outward manifestations of desire you can be admired and liked for your intelligence and depth, at least by those minority who are not silly and trivial. That is the fate of so many you would lust after, not to be envied.
Some Western men solve this problem by becoming High status via Global Travel.. you can find YouTube videos of white Western men traveling to the Philippines for example and even though they may be 70 years old they are with much younger women.. if you go to the passport Bros subreddit on Reddit site you can find discussions of this phenomenon... and basically they will tell you that there are many women in the third world who crave white DNA and want to get a white baby and they also seek the money of the white Western men. It doesn't take much money to be rich in the third world..
However, unfortunately I'm talking to people here in the dissident right and the dissonant right has been taken over by a moralistic neopuritanical culture.. so therefore what I'm suggesting is taboo in this forum
I think the movie proved the opposite of your point. The fact that the man was older and not especially attractive wasn't considered 'ick.' The girls hung out with him and came back to his apartment after all. No one does this with someone for whom they have zero attraction. The ick factor kicked in after he raped her. I'd say the movie wasn't trying to show that the girls weren't wrong for cheating, instead it was showing that even people who make bad moral choices can be the victims of bad people.
No. The girls hung out with him and went to his apartment only to butter him up so he'd be lenient when they took their makeup exam. They didn't like him or think he was "cool."
"No one does this with someone for whom they have zero attraction." -- They do, when they have ulterior motives.
AI companions and robot girlfriends might solve this social dilemma.