He went through security with rangefinder! And they let him in.
“By 3 p.m. on Saturday, roughly three hours before the shooting, Crooks was at the security screening area for the rally. He first aroused suspicion when he passed through the magnetometers carrying a rangefinder, which looks similar to a small pair of binoculars and is used by hunters and target shooters to measure distances when setting up a long-range shot, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.”
The peripheral evidence of an abandoned narrative/unexpected outcome is most compelling to me:
1. Nikki Haley invitation to the RNC announced ½ hour before assassination attempt. Afterward, a media deluge of reports that she was "invited by Trump". A Sikh prayer is featured there two days later. Haley reiterates clearly during her address, that she was personally invited by Trump.
2. Media is unusually non-committal amongst other subdued oddities, like live coverage of a relatively minor rally by major outlets, and the presence of BBC reporters at the scene. A MSM memo is leaked that confirms coordination in downplaying the attempt and limiting reporting or commentary on it
3. Two patsies are presented through unknown channels, one Antifa, one not. FBI eventually confirms the non-antifa individual while information on the Antifa suspect is scrubbed.
4. Trump Media shorted sharply in the week leading up to the event, causing some to speculate foreknowledge.
This suggests not only that the outcome was unplanned, but that it was planned with unusual haste.
familiar with most of these points but they seem neutral to me; clearly there would be the attempt to make it look unplanned if it was planned, n'est pas? Best gauge is the outcome, tide is turning for Mr Trump and even Zuckerberg is onboard
I understand a resistance to the series of events as witnessed through the screen, I shared it. If true, one can hardly interpret it as anything less than providential and it strains credulity. An interesting thing occurs though when one assumes, for the sake of argument, that what they witnessed was in fact a failed attempt on the life of Donald Trump and takes a tour of the timeline that follows a successful attempt instead. Are you familiar enough with US politics to know about Nikki Haley, her campaign for president, and the interests she represents?
No, but my wife is; she was initially leaning towards your view but the almost instant shift of establishment interests towards Trump have swayed her. (Will continue as a note)
Zuckerberg: "Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life."
The advantage is Donald's, that is not in dispute. It will be interesting to watch all this play out in the weeks that follow this one. Your wife may find the details of point 1 interesting.
Also, a lady from Michigan who has been present at ca. 150 Trump rallies was interviewed after the attempted assassination about what she thought. She sells merchandise at the rallies, and seems very observant, thoughtful, and well-spoken. She said that when she arrived in Butler the night before, things at the rally location did not seem right. There didn't seem to be the thorough precautions that she had noticed at other rallies, such as having large trucks parked in order to block possible lines of sight for someone shooting at Trump. "They don't make mistakes like this.... The whole thing just does not feel right."
Some of what she said might be more in the realm of opinion, but the facts that she gave regarding things such as the lack of the trucks were interesting also. https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1813291239808119204
"The Secret Service had called in to a 'center' about the ID'd threat ten minutes before Trump went on stage yet he was allowed to go on stage, and that the Secret Service agent charge in Butler was on the phone with state and local police when the shooting occurred." --Aisha Hasnie, Fox News, via Gateway Pundit https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/secret-service-aware-threat-ten-minutes-before-shooting/
The desire to believe that something like this could happen randomly does seem to dovetail "nicely" (I would say bleakly) with the desire to believe "the hand of God" might intervene in such affairs. For me it's a foregone conclusion that this is false. If God were to get involved in human affairs it won't be on international TV. The only theory that at least has some superficial credibility is an incompetent rogue element of "deep state" going off script, and AFAIK no one is proposing this one.
I'd suggest that God in fact gets involved whenever he sees fit. Why he intervenes in certain things and not others can, of course, only be a mystery to those of us who dwell on this side of Heaven.
I don’t mean the thesis is wrong, only that it is too loose to apply to anything or ever to be tested, so effectively meaningless. By the same logic, one could just as easily argue that God wanted DJT killed, but the devil (or human error, same diff?) messed up His plan.
But God is sovereign in a way that the Devil isn't, so if the Devil intervened, that would mean that the act was permitted by God for his own ends.
I agree with you that it is impossible to test; it is reliant on faith, which some have and others lack, and still others, including myself, struggle to have. I also get how it may come across as unduly glib-- being admittedly impossible to test, as you say-- if it is stated but please be assured that I am not communicating the notion in the least glibly.
He went through security with rangefinder! And they let him in.
“By 3 p.m. on Saturday, roughly three hours before the shooting, Crooks was at the security screening area for the rally. He first aroused suspicion when he passed through the magnetometers carrying a rangefinder, which looks similar to a small pair of binoculars and is used by hunters and target shooters to measure distances when setting up a long-range shot, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.”
https://www.aol.com/trump-shooter-requested-saturday-off-000439744.html
Susser and susser
The peripheral evidence of an abandoned narrative/unexpected outcome is most compelling to me:
1. Nikki Haley invitation to the RNC announced ½ hour before assassination attempt. Afterward, a media deluge of reports that she was "invited by Trump". A Sikh prayer is featured there two days later. Haley reiterates clearly during her address, that she was personally invited by Trump.
2. Media is unusually non-committal amongst other subdued oddities, like live coverage of a relatively minor rally by major outlets, and the presence of BBC reporters at the scene. A MSM memo is leaked that confirms coordination in downplaying the attempt and limiting reporting or commentary on it
3. Two patsies are presented through unknown channels, one Antifa, one not. FBI eventually confirms the non-antifa individual while information on the Antifa suspect is scrubbed.
4. Trump Media shorted sharply in the week leading up to the event, causing some to speculate foreknowledge.
This suggests not only that the outcome was unplanned, but that it was planned with unusual haste.
familiar with most of these points but they seem neutral to me; clearly there would be the attempt to make it look unplanned if it was planned, n'est pas? Best gauge is the outcome, tide is turning for Mr Trump and even Zuckerberg is onboard
I understand a resistance to the series of events as witnessed through the screen, I shared it. If true, one can hardly interpret it as anything less than providential and it strains credulity. An interesting thing occurs though when one assumes, for the sake of argument, that what they witnessed was in fact a failed attempt on the life of Donald Trump and takes a tour of the timeline that follows a successful attempt instead. Are you familiar enough with US politics to know about Nikki Haley, her campaign for president, and the interests she represents?
No, but my wife is; she was initially leaning towards your view but the almost instant shift of establishment interests towards Trump have swayed her. (Will continue as a note)
Zuckerberg: "Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life."
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1814322435254112487
Donald The Orange Returns Triumphantly As Donald The White
https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1814118718785331700
For this to be unplanned, it really would start looking like a miracle?
The advantage is Donald's, that is not in dispute. It will be interesting to watch all this play out in the weeks that follow this one. Your wife may find the details of point 1 interesting.
https://x.com/pcexaminer/status/1812837783482106012
Also, a lady from Michigan who has been present at ca. 150 Trump rallies was interviewed after the attempted assassination about what she thought. She sells merchandise at the rallies, and seems very observant, thoughtful, and well-spoken. She said that when she arrived in Butler the night before, things at the rally location did not seem right. There didn't seem to be the thorough precautions that she had noticed at other rallies, such as having large trucks parked in order to block possible lines of sight for someone shooting at Trump. "They don't make mistakes like this.... The whole thing just does not feel right."
Some of what she said might be more in the realm of opinion, but the facts that she gave regarding things such as the lack of the trucks were interesting also. https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1813291239808119204
"The Secret Service had called in to a 'center' about the ID'd threat ten minutes before Trump went on stage yet he was allowed to go on stage, and that the Secret Service agent charge in Butler was on the phone with state and local police when the shooting occurred." --Aisha Hasnie, Fox News, via Gateway Pundit https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/secret-service-aware-threat-ten-minutes-before-shooting/
Susser and susser and susser
If they don't provide clear evidence proving he was shot in the ear we'll know they're lying.
www.cnn.com/2024/07/18/health/dr-sanjay-gupta-analysis-trump/index.html
The desire to believe that something like this could happen randomly does seem to dovetail "nicely" (I would say bleakly) with the desire to believe "the hand of God" might intervene in such affairs. For me it's a foregone conclusion that this is false. If God were to get involved in human affairs it won't be on international TV. The only theory that at least has some superficial credibility is an incompetent rogue element of "deep state" going off script, and AFAIK no one is proposing this one.
I'd suggest that God in fact gets involved whenever he sees fit. Why he intervenes in certain things and not others can, of course, only be a mystery to those of us who dwell on this side of Heaven.
seems like a pretty loose thesis!
It seems to me to be inherent in the very notion of God's sovereignty
I don’t mean the thesis is wrong, only that it is too loose to apply to anything or ever to be tested, so effectively meaningless. By the same logic, one could just as easily argue that God wanted DJT killed, but the devil (or human error, same diff?) messed up His plan.
But God is sovereign in a way that the Devil isn't, so if the Devil intervened, that would mean that the act was permitted by God for his own ends.
I agree with you that it is impossible to test; it is reliant on faith, which some have and others lack, and still others, including myself, struggle to have. I also get how it may come across as unduly glib-- being admittedly impossible to test, as you say-- if it is stated but please be assured that I am not communicating the notion in the least glibly.
answered at length here: https://substack.com/@jasunhorsley/note/c-62713599